It’s Not An Add-On

Hey, stay standing if you would just for a couple minutes. We're going to open our Bibles. You know, church people, we got routine. We talk about this in the prayer room. When you come to the prayer room, which if you haven't been to the prayer room, just real simply get to the prayer room. Um, but people will be standing and then somebody comes up to pray and it's like this. If you say the word amen, it's like it's like I don't I don't know what that is. You know what I mean? It's like amen means sit. So just a little something you could think about. The the word a amen doesn't actually mean sit down. Um so all of us that's not just our church. I think that's church people. So can be challenged or encouraged either one with that. But if you want to open your Bibles to Luke chapter 5. Today we're finishing Luke chapter 5. We've started a series uh in the beginning of Advent going through the Gospel of Luke, looking at the unfiltered story of Jesus. We're calling this series Authentic. And um we're going to spend several months, several more months going through the Gospel of Luke. I know the Lord is teaching us and growing us. And >> I'm excited because sometimes when you preach through a whole gospel like we're doing, you come to some passages that for sometimes people know the story or for some it's like a favorite story. And the last couple verses of Luke 5 are a couple of my favorite verses in the Bible. So I'm so excited to preach those uh today. But we're I'm going to read starting in Luke 5 27 uh all the way through verse 39. The Bible says this. After this, Jesus went out and he saw a tax collector by the name of Levi sitting at his tax booth. Follow me, Jesus said to him. And Levi got up, left everything, and followed him. Then Levi held a great banquet for Jesus at his house. And a large crowd of tax collectors and others were eating with them. But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law who belonged to their sect complained to his disciples, "Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and sinners?" Jesus answered them, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." They said to him, "John's disciples often fast and pray, and so do the disciples of the Pharisees, but yours go on eating and drinking." Jesus answered, "Can you make the friends of the bridegroom fast while he is with them? But the time will come when the bridegroom will be taken away from them. In those days, they will fast." He told them this parable. No one tears a piece of a new garment to patch an old one. Otherwise, they will have torn the new garment and the patch from the new will not patch the old. And no one pours new wine into old wine skins, otherwise the new wine will burst the skins. The wine will run out and the wine skins will be ruined. No new wine must be poured into new wine skins. No one after drinking old wine wants the new. For they say the old is better. Holy Spirit, would you teach us through this passage today? I pray for the spirit of wisdom and revelation to the knowledge of your will to be known in every one of us. God, I pray that we would become vessels that you could pour new wine into in Jesus name. Amen. Amen. Now, why don't you have a seat if you like this morning in church? [laughter] I'm not trying to be rude. I promise. I'm excited to talk through this passage. Before I do that though, I want to I want to take just a moment. Uh Lent starts this Wednesday. And uh if you're new to our church, you you might especially if you're new to church or following Jesus, then uh Lent, you probably don't know what that is. Lent is the 40 days leading into Easter. And it's a practice that the church, meaning followers of Jesus, have engaged in for hundreds and hundreds of years. And several years ago, I think probably about four, maybe more at this point, one of the things that God really started to do and Pastor Megan and I was this reality that I think we've thrown out the baby with the bathwater when it comes to the practices of the church. And there's a reason that for hundreds of years, the church has engaged in certain practices that help us grow our faith, that help us strengthen our relationship with Jesus. And we've seen a divide in in the church world as we know it certainly in the west where it's like there's these traditional churches that have these traditional things they do and then there's these Pentecostal charismatic churches that don't do any of those traditional things. And so uh I'm I'm Pentecostal. We're Pentecostal in our theology. We also believe that there's a lot of practices that the church has engaged in for many years that are important to have as a part of our life. And so what God is doing and we're in the process of becoming, I believe, is this picture of what I think is a spiritfilled, spirit-ledd church that understands the significance of the practices and traditions of the church for a couple thousand years that they help us grow and who we're supposed to become. And Lent is one of those things we're learning to lean into more and more. Real practically, if you're like, "What is Lent?" Lent is about repenting, which it's why everybody likes to ignore it. Why would we practice Lent? I repented on that day. I got saved. I'm good to go. Repentance is a change of direction. It's a first step towards God, but then we have to keep in this spirit of repentance. We stay in this process of turning towards God. The New Testament tells us to work out our salvation. We're saved and yet we're being saved, right? We're in this process at all times. So repentance is this regular practice. Lent is this season to engage in the reality of how much we recognize our own weakness and failures. How much more we need God. It takes us to a celebration of Easter that for I hope would cause it to be even more celebratory and exciting for so many of us than it's ever been before. So during this season, what I want to encourage you to do, be in the prayer room as much as you can. We'll send out encouragement in social media. We'll mention different things as well. Also, a great time to fast something. I realize we had a 21-day fast that just ended a couple of weeks ago. So, I'm not saying you need to do a, you know, a liquid only lent fast, but pick something to go without for this season because it just walks us into that practice. Now, one of the things uh at our Western Branch campus, we have on our regular schedule now, we have a a prayer a prayer room uh prayer room hours on Wednesday from noon to 1. And so, this Wednesday at the Western Branch campus from noon to 1, we're going to have a Ash Wednesday service to kick off Lent. Now, here's what I want you to know. I've never led an Ash Wednesday service. I'm really excited about it because I like to try new things and I want to grow in my [snorts] relationship with Jesus. And I want to help us do the same thing. For those of you that are here and you're like, "Are we becoming Catholic?" No, we're not becoming Catholic. We're not becoming Lutheran. I could go down the list, right? Uh we just believe that's what these things mean. I want to encourage you if you're in Hampton Roads, uh be here at the noon uh the noon service for Ash Wednesday. We're going to stream it online as well. And so, just an opportunity for us to set in motion leading in to Easter as we get started. All right. Thank you for a little feedback because that was just like an announcement before I preach the message because you know it's there you go. All right, why don't you get out your journals if you don't already and write this down. It's not an add-on. It's not an add-on. It is not an add-on. Jesus is not an add-on. We like add-ons. I was thinking about in life how often people try to get us to add on. Do you want to add a shot to that drink at Starbucks? Do you want to add cheese to that pretzel? You didn't even know a pretzel needed cheese and then you got cheese and now you can't eat a pretzel without cheese. If there's no cheese, what's the point? Do you need to add travel insurance on that trip? >> Or even better, do you want to upgrade to the room with a view? We love to add on. We love to think about how could we just get a little bit better? How could we add something that we become convinced is going to make our life a little bit better? I know a personal favorite for some of my boys. Do you want to add bacon to that burger? >> If we're not careful, we begin to think, I want to add Jesus to my life. I want to keep doing what I'm doing. I just want to add Jesus. I think that'll make it better if I add Jesus onto my life. I think if I add some of those truths in the Bible onto my life, I think it'll make it I'm going to add church attendance on Sunday onto my life. Just going to add some add a little bit of this Christianity onto my life and just see what happens. Problem is that's not Christianity. That's not following Jesus. And we treat Jesus and we treat following Jesus, we've watched it, I would say, for hundreds of years, certainly in a lot of the Western uh nations of the world, we add Jesus on to the life we want and we end up living in mediocrity and calling it the full life. I love where our passage starts today because it shows us this guy Levi who is a tax collector. Tax collectors were notoriously sinners in this time. I'm not saying that tax collectors are sinners in 2026. My parents were both accountants. My wife was an accountant. She got an accounting degree and that was her first first job before we were in ministry. I have grown up in accounting and tax. I've grown up to fear and be scared of the IRS. [snorts] So when I read about the tax collector in scripture, I'm like, "Oh yeah, I know why nobody liked the tax collector. The reason they didn't like the tax collectors though in scripture, the reason that it's brought up here by Jesus is because they would steal from people. They they would take what was supposed to go to the government and then they would keep a little for themselves also." >> They knew they weren't supposed to. Other people knew they weren't supposed to. They got away with it, so they kept doing it. Jesus goes to a tax booth, looks at this guy, Levi, says, "Follow me." Levi does three things in response to Jesus what is ultimately a command that I want to just have a little fun with us today and say are these three things that that we do. The first thing that the scripture says in Luke chapter 5 is that he got up. He had to change his position. I think sometimes about us that we're sitting with the wrong people. I don't mean who you're sitting with at church today, by the way. So, please please don't look at them and be like, "Should have sat somewhere different next Sunday. Definitely going to get a different location." That's that's not what I'm saying. But I think sometimes in our life, we just get comfortable where we shouldn't be getting comfortable. Sometimes in our life, we've just settled in to a space and we're good to stay here. And you might even be at church and you hear the pastor say, "Hey, you need to follow Jesus." And the idea is, "I just want to stay seated right here and follow Jesus." No, you have to get up. The second thing that the Bible tells us that Levi did after Jesus said, "Follow me," is it says he left everything. He left everything because ultimately to follow Jesus, we have to leave some things. >> We have to leave some mindsets. [snorts] We have to leave some habits. We may have to leave some relationships. We may have to leave some jobs. It's not an add-on. This guy Levi, he had to leave everything. Which tells us up to this point, everything about his life was not going the direction of Jesus. So, he had to get up. He had to get out of his comfortable position. He had to leave everything. thing. And the third thing that the scriptures tell us he did is he actually followed Jesus. I wanted to say this as I was praying for today and praying for you, for our church. If you're a guest today, we're glad you're here. I I hope and pray if you're not planted in church, you and that you would plant in a live church. Um, I was praying for our church and I was thinking about how many of us maybe have gotten up. Maybe we've left some things, but we haven't actually taken the step to really follow Jesus. We've gotten some things out of our life that maybe we felt like we're supposed to get out of our life. Maybe we've made some changes, but we haven't then stepped into actually following Jesus. And I felt that burden even just to encourage us today. Let's follow Jesus. That's where the life is. Let's follow Jesus. It doesn't fit into most things. Let's follow Jesus. I think it's interesting Jesus didn't say to Levi, "Hey, keep the tax booth. Just be more ethical." He He didn't tell him, "Stay what?" He's like, "No, there's something totally different. I have for your life. Write it down if you haven't already. When we choose to follow Jesus, we choose to leave some things behind. When we choose to follow Jesus, we choose to leave some things behind because Jesus is not an add-on. I don't have enough space to just add on. And it's not a one-time moment. It's a continuous process. It's a continuous learning. I remember in 2005 in Sunset Hills, Missouri, when I ran to the altar to commit my life to follow Jesus, we left everything in that moment. And what I mean when I say that is we left old thinking. I left old thinking, old mindsets. I remember when I felt like God said to be a pastor. I've never heard the audible voice of God, but I remember when I felt like he said be a pastor and I left my job and thankfully my wife didn't leave me. Uh uh I left all the natural security of my life. I'm telling you today, when Jesus is calling you, he's calling you to not place your security in anything other than him. The call to follow Jesus is the call to not get comfortable in what you can do for you. The call to follow Jesus is to say, "I'm not going to let all of these things be what dictate my life. I want to know I'm going after the one." I didn't have any questions answered. I just was like, "Let's go." I think about Levi. He had he probably said, "Let's go." Then I think about right now, question for you, question for me. What is God telling telling you? Because he keeps speaking. One of the things for me in 2026, God God's telling me, you need to grow in wisdom. And so there's certain aspects of my life this year is there's some things that I'm not doing and some things that I am doing because this is something God is telling me I need to leave things to step into things. We do it once and then it's a regular process. We keep keep going. What is it that God is calling you to? What is it he's calling you away from? What is it you're afraid to admit that you know God is telling you to do? I think that well a couple things. One, I do believe with all my heart the Lord blesses his kids. The scriptures tell us that God's a good father. If an earthly father knows how to give good gifts to his kids, how much more will your father in heaven give good to his kids? So, I believe God wants to bless us. And at the exact same time, there's no but, it's an and. And at the exact same time, he doesn't want us to get comfortable. Because the reality for all of us is if we get comfortable, we don't think we need God. Back to Levi. Levi's like, "Let's go. I'm going to follow him. I'm going to actually leave everything." And so what he does is he throws a party for Jesus. He throws a party for Jesus. Not only that, he invites all the other tax collectors. It's like an IRS staff meeting. And Jesus is like, "I'm going. This is going to be incredible." And then there's this group of people called the Pharisees. They were the religious people. They didn't really care about a relationship with God. In fact, they weren't really focused as much on what they were doing. They focused way more on what other people weren't doing. And the Pharisees are like, "Hey, who is this guy? Why is he actually hanging out with sinners? That's that's not okay." And then Jesus responds to this reality that's going on with what is one of I mean, there's a lot of things that Jesus said that are really significant. This line here in Matthew chapter or in Luke chapter 5 is very significant. He says, "I didn't come to call >> the righteous. I came to call sinners to repentance. >> Jesus didn't come to the earth. Jesus isn't moving today for perfect people because those don't exist. He's moving for people who are humble enough to say, "God, I need you. Please forgive me." And boom, he can then set in and begin to work in our life and begin to shape our life in the way we're called to be. He sits with sinners not because he approves sin. He sits with sinners because he's not intimidated by their sin. He sits with sinners not because he approves it. He sits with sinners because he's here to save us, to set us free. Jesus did not come to merely call people out on their sin. He came to call them to something that would change everything. [snorts] Have you ever been called out on something and then sort of felt like you were just left there? Like you did this and then you just are like, "All right, yeah, I'm going to leave now." Like you you recognize that Jesus is showing us the kind of God he is. He's not just stepping in and saying, "Hey, you missed it." It says he's stepping in and saying, "Hey, you missed it. This is the way of repentance and the way to life." It feels very different to be called out on something and then to also know the way forward than it does to be called out on something and left in it. in our earthly relationships the same way even more so in our relationship with God is he is going by by the spirit in your heart in your mind he's going to reveal things to you he's going to show us things that need to get out of our life he's going to show us things that need to change about our life but he always shows us a way forward never just leaves us in our sin he never just leaves us to go hey I hope you figure it out big guy luck >> no he's like here's the way of repentance here's the way of freedom. Here's the way of life. And this is what he does. And then the Pharisees could care less, couldn't care less about what he's saying. He goes, "Hey, I came to call sinners to repentance." And here's their response. Well, John's disciples often fast and pray. So do the disciples of the Pharisees, but yours go on eating and drinking. I hope if you've been here in this series, you're studying the Bible with us and learning in the text how bizarre it is sometimes the way people respond to what Jesus is doing. The most significant thing and moment for the Pharisees. I have come so that you don't have to stay dead in your sins. When I say dead, when I say dead in your sins, by the way, I want all of us to know something. None of us are exempt from what I'm about to say. Every single day, maybe there are some exceptions. Almost every single day you do something, you say something you have some thought that you know was not what you were supposed to do. Even if you won't admit it out of your mouth, even if you try to act like it doesn't matter, you know inside the weight of that reality. And Jesus says, "Hey, I came for you. >> I came so that you don't have to live with that feeling. >> You don't have to live with that mindset that says it's not going to work out. You don't have to live with that guilt and shame. I came to set you free from that. >> And the Pharisees, they're like, "Hey, why why why aren't y'all fasting? We're going to stay in our guilt and shame and try to prove we're good by what we do." And Jesus is like, "I want to set you free from trying to prove you're good from what you do. I want you to understand a totally different way of life. It's a new thing." So Jesus responds, "Can you make the friends of the bridegroom fast while he is with them? The time will come when the bridegroom will be taken away from them. In those days, they will fast. So Jesus, one of his favorite illustrations or examples is that he is the groom. The church is the bride that and and we try to get an understanding of that. And this is where sometimes we study, we're like, I don't really understand that. So there's aspects where, you know, we're we're uh I was going to say mental, but that's not what I meant. We're human in our minds. Maybe we're mental. I don't know. But uh we're we just know that there's this oneness. In fact, [snorts] in John chapter 17, Jesus was praying and he's praying to the father and he's saying, "I want us to all be one." Jesus is asking that all of his followers, what would be called the bride of Christ, would be one with him just as Jesus and the father are one. That there's this supernatural unity that Jesus sees that is what can start now and then last forever for eternity is what he sees as his purpose, as his mission, as what we can walk into. And he's saying, "While while I'm here with them, they aren't going to fast because we're going to celebrate. While I'm here with them, we're not going to go without. There's a time coming." Jesus speaking to the reality that he is going to ascend to the father before he once again will return to set up a new heaven and a new earth. But right now is not that time. Right now is the time to celebrate. There will then be a time to fast once again. We're living in the fasting time once again, by the way. So, if you're like, "Why do we fast?" We fast because Jesus is seated at the right hand of the father right now and the new heaven and the new earth hasn't happened yet. So, if you think you we don't need to fast, we're you're wrong. We do need to fast. I wish that we didn't. I really don't like fasting anything ever. This isn't about fasting. I just using the word fast. So, I think about the graciousness of Jesus when I look at this passage. [snorts] One of the things I know you've heard me say, I I really wish that they wouldn't have made the bracelets brace bracelets [snorts] uh what would Jesus do. Instead, it was uh what did Jesus do? Because what we see is Jesus was so full of grace. What did Jesus do? He showed grace. He kept trying to help him understand. He kept trying to come up with ways to teach. He kept trying to be like, "Come on, you can do this. Come on, you can do this." And so he goes to tell him a parable. Jesus was a master storyteller. And so he tells them this parable that is my favorite part of this whole teaching. He starts with the patch on the garments. You don't put a new piece of cloth on an old garment. How many of you I feel like we're getting probably this is probably pastimes, but how many anybody when you were a kid your parents show sewed patches on your jeans or pants? Come on, let's see it. You know, it's amazing how kids [snorts] like go outside in a new pair of jeans and you're like, "How how is there a hole?" They literally look brand new, right? And by the way, when I wear jeans with holes in them, it's not because I tore holes in them. It is on purpose. The amount of times of pastoring for 15 years that people have stopped me in the lobby and told me I needed to get new jeans when I wear jeans with holes in them is hilarious to me. I'm fully aware that they have holes in them. Just just wanted to wear jeans with holes in them that day. Sorry. Some people probably left our church because the pastor had holes in his jeans. [laughter] Some of you probably left our church because I have tattoos. cuz I could go down the list of just what happens when we get religious. It's not what today's about. I take a week off preaching and I have so much going on. It's just it's just a lot. So he says, "No, you can't you can't take new and patch old. Doesn't work like that. it is going to just tear off because the two can't go together. It's not an add-on. Can't just add something. And then he starts to talk about wine and wine skins in a culture that wine had such significant meaning. Joy and celebrations a big part of the culture. At the same time in the Bible the when we see wine it it's reflective of actual joy. It's reflected at times of the power of the Holy Spirit. It's it's reflected the reality of the goodness of God. And so Jesus chooses this parable to introduce something that they would understand in their natural way and at the same time to show us a little bit about what he's bringing. And he says, "You can't you you can't just pour new wine into an old wine skin." Now, we don't use wine skins still today. At least I don't think uh most of us do. We would just buy wine in a bottle or something like that. But a wine skin, right, is this it's it's leather and it's it's got a limited amount of of of stretching that it can do as the as the wine would expand inside. And so Jesus goes, "If you put the new in something that's already expanded, it's going to totally burst." And then not only do you lose the wine skin, you also lose the new thing that's being poured into the wine skin. It's not about wine. Is about what he's bringing. Jesus is bringing something totally new to a people that are very comfortable in their old ways. I am personally so tempted in day-today life and I want to I guess just say I think all of us could be to just add the new of Jesus onto our old way of doing things. He ends this passage saying that if they go back and drink the old, they're like, "Well, why do I need the why do I need the new? I'm good with what I already have. Why we got to change? Why? Why we have to change? We were just talking before service backstage and uh and it wasn't even about this. It was just in conversation about church and about about, you know, growing and disciples and things like this. And you know, one of one of the pastors on our team said something like it's one of the things about about our church over, you know, the last decade plus, like we're we're changing. We're we're always changing. And I'm like, yes, we are always trying to change. The reason we're always trying to change is because we're always saying, God, we want the new thing that you're doing right now. We want the new thing that you're doing right now. We want the new thing that you're doing right now. But we have to change so that we can handle the new thing that God is doing right now. >> If we stay an old vessel, if we stay a 2022 Christian vessel, we can't handle the new wine that God is pouring out in 2026. I don't get to say, "I read the Bible in 2019. I'm good. I did that fasting thing three years ago. I'm good. No. What? How are we changing now? I want the new that God is doing now. One of the things specific for our church in 2026. I declared when we talked about vision is a couple of things over this year that I believe God is has said for us. Number one, he's doing a new thing in our church in our midst in 2026 very significantly. And it's a year of harvest. Isaiah 43, Psalm 126. Two scriptures we're leaning into. Then we come into this. God's got new wine. Are we new wine skins? I pray it could convict us and could encourage us a little bit today. What is an old wineskin? Old structures, old coping mechanisms. An old wineskin represents protective habits, religious frameworks, doing the same thing over and over. For the Pharisees, their old wineskin was the spiritual systems. Was [snorts] recently reading a a book by Parker Palmer. He He says, "In order for us to really know what we're supposed to do with our life, [snorts] we have to get really deep inside." And the number one problem in his opinion that people experience is we try to escape the inner reality of who we are. Because if I can escape the inner reality of who I am and just add stuff or just do stuff, I don't have to deal with it. The problem is if I don't get to the heart of who I really am, I can't become the kind of person God can pour new wine into. And when you decide to get to the inner real you, listen, it's going to be a little painful. How I don't want to discourage us, but it's going to be a little bit painful because depending on how old you are, you just have more years to work through. You realize like, I just don't want to deal with that. No, that hurts. Like I start to think about things about me that need to change and I'm like, "No, that hurts. I'll deal with that in 2030." But there's these old mindsets and there's these old way of processing and so many of these aspects of our life. And if we will get to the inner aspects of us and say, "God, heal this. Would you help me work in this?" I'm ready for the new. Because then when I can walk in the new, what God does in us is he changes our desires. The scriptures say that God is working in you, giving you the desire to do what pleases him. It's not that we have to get a desire for God. It's that we have to get honest about the real us. Let God change us so that we have a desire for God. If you and I just go around going, "Love Jesus more. Love Jesus more. Love Jesus more. Be a better person. Be a better person. Be a better person. We won't love Jesus more and we won't be a better person because we can't work ourselves up into this. Is God in us? He gives us new identity. He gives us new motivations. But here's the thing. We can't pray for new wine while we hold on to old wine skins. We can't believe God for breakthrough and hold on to our old way of doing things. We can't ask God and expect him to move in power in our life while we avoid inner surrender. The truth is this. Where there's new wine, there's joy. There's expansion. There's pressure. There's a new identity. Ultimately, there's better. So, my question, one of my questions. What is the old that you need to let go of today, right now? What is the old mindset? What is the old activity? When I say old, you could have came up with it yesterday or it could be decades old. What are the ways that we think about God, that you think about Christianity, that you think about following Jesus? That is an old mindset that needs to change to become the vessel, to become the one that God could pour truly into what he has for you right now. What he has for us right now. The way Isaiah said it in Isaiah 43, he said, God is doing a new thing and he uses these words, "Do you not see it?" The Pharisees could not see the new thing God was trying to tell them because they were so glued to the old. They could not see that Jesus was bringing a new covenant, a new way of grace, a way of forgiveness, a way of life. But they wanted to cling to their past. I want you to know when I say this, I'm not just talking about past sins. I'm saying how how are we growing in our expression of worshiping Jesus? How when we think about when we think about church, the church looks different in 2026 than it did in 40. like actual 40 and in 500 and in a thousand and in 1500 and we get so caught up on like this is what it has to be. And I'm like no God let us not get caught up in this is how it has to be. Let us truly keep becoming and changing so that we can experience what you have for us. So that what that means practically is you'll be a better spouse. You'll be a better parent. You'll be a better friend because you're leaned in and focused in the right space [snorts] of becoming who God made you to be so you could receive the new. Would you pray with me? [snorts] Lord, I pray across the room right now. Lord, I pray for those of us that need to leave something right now, a mindset, an activity, way of processing. Lord, I pray for those in the house today, their hope is in something beyond you, something other than you. I even think some today, Lord, they love you, but their the their trust, their confidence is in something material. God, would you help us leave that mindset? Jesus, I'm asking you for us as a community of believers. Would you help us truly become the kind of vessels that you can pour the new into, that can receive the new, that can grow, that can change. And Lord, I prayed over every single marriage today. Lord, I pray Lord, let that marriage be a new vessel that you could pour new wine into. God, over every family right now, I pray, let that family be a new vessel that you could pour new wine into. God, we pray it over a live church, Lord. Let us be a new vessel that you could pour new wine into. God, we pray it over over your church, over the church in the nation we're in. We pray over the church in America right now. God, would you make us a new vessel so that you could pour new wine into us that we would be the light that we would know the moment we live in. Ultimately, Lord, just as Levi did, would you help us follow you and follow you completely? May we get up, may we leave what we need to leave and follow you with our whole life in Jesus name. Amen.